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How much money And Time it takes to Mount Everest climb

Sunday 7 September 2014

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  1. Mount Everest
    Mountain in Asia
  2. Mount Everest, also known in Nepal as Sagarmāthā and in Tibet as Chomolungma, is the Earth's highest mountain. It is located in the Mahalangur section of the Himalayas.
  3. Elevation8,848 m
  4. First ascentMay 29, 1953
  5. Prominence8,848 m
  6. Mountain range: HimalayasMahalangur Himal
During annual coverage of Everest, one of  most popular posts is about money; well how much money it takes to climb Everest. What most readers want to know is 1) how little do I have to spend and 2) where do I get it?
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This post was updated on February 19 2014.

Update February 2014

In February 2014, the Nepal’s ministry of tourism and civil aviation announced a new fee structure for their mountains. Please read this post for all the details but the main change for Everest was that effective January 1, 2015, a new single climber permit for $11,000 replaces to the long time Everest permit fee structure of 7 members for $70,000 or $10,000 per person. Thus I have updated this post to reflect an $11,000 permit fee for going it solo instead of $25,000. All other fees remained unchanged for this analysis. Bottom line is that prices will go up for 99.9% of all Everest climbers..
I predict the majority of Western Guides will increase their base prices for 2015 by $2500 to $5000.
























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The Big Picture

For 2014, costs have increased pushing the prices higher on both sides, especially for the low cost operators. Those at the high-end have held their prices steady absorbing the increases. The average price of the companies I surveyed looks to be about $48,000 on the south and $37,000 on the north with the primary difference being the permit costs and support staff salaries.
There are real costs involved to climb Everest and it is not the place to save money. However, with guided expeditions charging from $30K to $100K, it is confusing. You can sometimes get a deal, but don’t count on it given the popularity of Everest. Most leading commercial guides sell out months in advance each year.
The Nepal and Tibet governments control much of the costs today with permit fees and requirements on wages, insurance and treatment of Sherpas, cooks and porters so a base price has been effectively established.
There are three ways to climb Everest: put together your own expedition, join a logistics only expedition or join a fully guided team.
Some climbers believe a solo expedition in the Messner 1980 north style is the way to save money; however the notion of a solo climb is somewhat academic today.
Before the explosion of commercially organized guides with dedicated Sherpas, ropes and ladders; a climber could go to the mountain (usually the north) and climb alone without using any of the common support systems. Some people try these days but end up using a ladder someone else put across a crevasse or a cook at base camp thus never really making a true solo climb. The best you can really achieve is without Sherpa support and still the costs are significant.
The majority of climbers use commercial expeditions because they spread the costs across multiple climbers thus reducing expenses and improving safety.

On Your Own

It is tempting to dream of planning your own Everest expedition. After all, anyone can fly to Kathmandu, buy a permit, food for 6 weeks; fly to Lukla or Lhasa, hire yaks and porters to get your gear to BC, establish your own base camp, cook all your own meals, determine your own weather forecast, make multiple climbs to ferry your own gear while establishing your high camps, pay for use of the fixed ropes, buy/rent oxygen, regulator, mask, summit, hire more yaks to get your gear back out or carry it yourself, and a ton of other stuff. It is certainly possible and done occasionally. However even these “independent” expeditions rely on some level of local logistics.
If saving money is the goal, you will be disappointed. You might have been able to do all this for under $15K back in the last century but definitely not today. The permit alone is $11,000. Even the first Swiss and British expeditions were massive undertakings requiring funding on a national level.

Cost Breakdown

To get started on the costs let’s look at the south but the north is similar with the permit being about $3700 cheaper. There are fees every climber and expedition must pay – directly or indirectly: a climbing permit, liaison officer, visa, park fee, yaks, porters, icefall ladders and fixed ropes, waste deposit, travel, insurance, tents, food and fuel. At a minimum these total $23,000 for one person going alone. Even splitting group expenses the base costs are $25,000 for a 7 person team.
If you wanted to do a true solo, unsupported (no oxygen, Sherpa or cook support but using ladders and ropes) on the south side for one person it would cost at least $24,000.
When you add in oxygen and base camp support, a one-person climb with Sherpa support approaches $45,000 but a 7 person team leveraging the group costs comes in at $37,000.
All these estimates assume you get your $4,000 trash deposit back, not always true. None of these estimates include western guides, add another $10,000 to $25,000 for that. To fully gear up for an 8000m climb from nothing, add another $7,000 for boots, down suits, layers, etc. Finally, this does not include tips which can be a couple of thousand dollars in total.
The bottom line for me is that even with the 2015 individual permit price reduction, going with a team is less expensive and safer. The reason they can offer climbs less than what I have calculated is that they reuse gear from season to season, get volume discounts and, in some cases, pay below market wages to staff. Remember you always pay your own personal expenses like airfare, extra hotel nights, alcohol and tips.
This is my estimated break down and there are additional costs I have not included for example travel, insurance, etc. for the support staff required by the governments.
PERSONAL TRAVEL $2,425 – $6,325
  • Airfare $1500 to $5000 depending on class and routing and excess baggage
  • Transportation Kathmandu to Lukla $325 round trip per person
  • Hotel and food in Kathmandu $300 to $700 depending on delays
  • Nepal Visa $100
  • Immunizations $200
Getting to EBC $3,990 – $4,550
  • Yaks to and from Base Camp $150 per yak per day carrying 120lbs, (4 yaks for 4 days minimum or $2400)
  • Porters to and from Base Camp $75 per porter per day carrying 60lbs (3 porters for 6 days minimum or $1350)
  • Tea Houses and food on trek to EBC $20 – $100/person /day – 7 days $140 – $700
  • Park Fee $100/team
Climbing Fees $16,500 – $21,500
  • Nepalese Liaison Officer $2500/team
  • South Base Camp Medical support $100/person
  • Permit $11,000 for each climber regardless of team size on South, $7300 for Westerner, $3000 for Nepali Sherpa on North
  • Garbage and human waste deposit $4,000/team permit (refundable but not always)
  • Icefall Doctors to fix route $2500/team or $500 per climber
  • Contribution to fixed ropes above Icefall $100/climber
  • Weather forecast $0 to $1000
  • Puja $300
EBC and High Camps $3,500 – $8,800
  • Tents $3000 new (sleeping, cooking, toilet, storage at 4 camps for 3 people)
  • Cooks $5000 per cook and assistant for 6 weeks
  • Food and fuel $800 per person for 6 weeks
Climbing $3,440 – $11,880
  • Oxygen $500/bottle (5 bottles) $2500
  • Oxygen Mask (Summit Oxygen) $440
  • Oxygen Regulator $500
  • Climbing Sherpa $5000 per Personal Sherpa with same oxygen as client
Misc $9,650 – $14,400 – 34,400
  • Medical kit $1000
  • Sherpas, cooks tips and bonus $250 – $2000 per individual depending on performance and summit
  • Helicopter evacuation from EBC-South $5000 – $20,000 depending on start and end locations (not available on north)
  • Rescue Insurance: $400
  • Personal Gear (down suit, high altitude boots, sleeping bags, etc): $7000
  • Satellite phone (own) $1000 to $3000 depending on usage
  • gear allowance for Sherpas $1000
OK, so now that it looks cost prohibitive to climb solo or even very independently for most people, let’s look deeper at climbing with an organized team.

Guide Definition

What is a guide? There are international organizations that certify guides such as the AMGA and the IFMGA. Individuals, after years of practical experience, go through extensive training across all types of terrains and techniques plus rescue and some medical courses before an intensive testing process to receive their certification. This is time consuming and expensive and not common in the US market but almost always required across Europe. Certified guides are technically the best of the best.
Some expeditions are led by a Westerner who does not call himself a guide but rather a leader. The leader coordinates activities, sometimes from base camp and may or may not actually climb with clients. The leader may or may not have actually summited the mountain.
Be aware that anyone can call themselves a guide in Nepal. There are many local companies with slick looking websites that offer attractive packages. Some are excellent but many are high risk. Verify everything.
There are three options for supported climbs: Sherpa supported, Sherpa guided and a western guided commercial expedition. All leverage permit fees and group costs such as deposits, cooks and tents across multiple climbers. Let’s look at them in detail:

Sherpa Supported Expedition

A Sherpa supported expedition is one where a company organizes all the logistics: food, group gear, transportation plus Sherpa support but does not provide traditional western guides or, in some case, even a lead Sherpa guide. The Sherpas may or may not speak English very well and will most likely follow your lead as to pushing forward or turning back.
These cater to experienced climbers or those on a tight budget. You can sign onto one of these climb for under $40,000 on the south side, but you need to read the fine print and strongly consider safety.
At the low end of the price range, a Sherpa will ferry your oxygen gear to the highest camps, prepare all the tents, and carry the group gear but not your personal gear. Don’t underestimate the toll of the simplest tasks at extreme altitude. One service uses a 4:1 ratio of climbers to Sherpa to give you a feel for the level of support. Also, due to the low staffing, some do not help with route fixing creating ill will with other teams.
A Sherpa will climb with you on summit night but you might be on your own with random teammates throughout the rest of the acclimatization climbing process, including preparing meals at the high camps. It is quite common to find yourself climbing only with a Sherpas or even alone. Access to modern weather forecasting technology is unlikely, you may use old style oxygen masks. It is absolutely required to ask many questions and understand every detail before signing onto these style of expeditions. Recent references are a must.
Asian Trekking specializes in this style of climb and is very good but many others are not. I climbed Everest in 2008 with High Altitude Dreams using this model.

Sherpa Guided Expedition

A Sherpa guided expedition will have an experienced Sherpa lead climbers through the route. Usually they depend on a Sirdar (a highly experienced senior Sherpa) to make the big decisions such as when to go for the summit or when to turn-around.
A variation on this approach is to hire a Personal Sherpa. These Sherpas have gained significant experience and training in dealing one to one with western clients. Their English skills are usually very good. A personal Sherpa will be at your side, literally, throughout every step of your climb including all the acclimatization climbs. You will never climb alone.
While they will not carry your gear, they may offload some items from time to time. They will be with you exclusively on your summit night even if you turn around before the summit. Expect to pay an additional $5K to $7K for a Personal Sherpa plus another 5% to 20% in tips and bonuses.
Almost every expedition except for the lowest costs ones, provide a Personal Sherpa on summit day, at an additional fee.
IMG’s Classic Everest Climb program has used this model safely for years. I summited in 2011 with my Personal Sherpa Kami Sherpa from IMG. Expect to pay around $40,000 for this style.

Western Guided Expedition

The western guided expeditions are ‘full service’ trips and are most appropriate for first time Everest climbers or anyone looking for a bit more support. The cost vary widely ranging from $55K to $85K. This includes all the services of a Sherpa guided climb plus sharing one or more western guides. If you want your own personal western guide, expect to pay $100K, plus tips and bonuses.
The major point of this approach is you are climbing in close proximity to a western guide who most likely has several summits of Everest under his/her harness. There is no language barrier and the guide will make all the decisions as to turn around times, weather and manage emergencies.
In addition, with a western guide, you will receive coaching and encouragement but this varies widely amongst the multiple personalities of the guides. A major component of the price difference is that you are paying for this incremental attention and guidance.
On these higher-end expeditions, you should have a high quality of food ranging from better prepared to exotic. One service likes to promote their sushi, another their 5 Star chef. Then there are espresso machines, open bars – in other words the sky’s the limit, all at a cost.
The most expensive guide companies (Adventure Consultants, AAI, etc) almost always come with several western guides and you never climb alone. I climbed Everest in 2002 and 2003 with Adventure Consultants using this model.

Team Size

One area to understand is the size of the team.
The highest price companies, that most often have small teams with western guides, will promote that they offer the benefit of personal attention, camaraderie, teamwork and support. They suggest the large teams are impersonal, and crowded.
My observation is that some small guided teams will try to climb as one group to support the teamwork and leverage the support staff which is good. However, the disadvantage of this is that if you are not feeling 100% you may feel the pressure to go anyway. Sometimes, you can lag a rotation behind, but it is discouraged.
The large teams almost never climb as one huge group. When climbing with a Personal Sherpa, there is a natural grouping that develops with like-minded climbers climbing at their own pace in small groups thus you get the advantage of a small team but leverage the costs more widely. Rarely are you forced to climb if you are not ready. Also you can avoid those “difficult” personalities that are always part of a long expedition.
My observation on large teams is sometimes you can have the feeling of a herd with large camps, unknown faces. Some climbers might feel a bit isolated. However, there is a increased feeling that if something goes wrong, there are a lot of resources on hand.
The bottom line for me has always been what kind of experience do you want. Both large or small teams can be equally successful.
As of February 2014, the final 2013 numbers on the Himalayan Database showed that 658 climbers made the summit. There were 539 from the south and 119 from the north side. 9 did not use supplemental oxygen and there were 8 confirmed deaths.
This brings the total summits to be around 6,871 by 4,042 different climbers, meaning that 2,739 climbers, mostly Sherpa, have multiple summits. The south side (Nepal) remains more popular with 4,416 summits while the north (Tibet) has 2,455 summits.
Overall 248 people (161 westerners and 87 Sherpas) have died on Everest from 1921 to 2013, 140 on the Nepal side and 108 from Tibet. Since 1990, the deaths as a percentage of summits have dropped to 3.6% due to better gear, weather forecasting and more people climbing with commercial operations. Annapurna is the deadliest 8000 meter mountain with a summit to death ratio of 2:1 deaths for every summit (109:55).

A Wide Price Range

So, what is the difference between an Everest expedition for $40K and one for $65K? Often it is simply profit, overhead, number of guides and team size. Also how many services are bundled into one single price versus offered as options. The lowest price outfits promote a low price and then offer “options” such as oxygen, Sherpa support or even food above base camp.
Another common practice to keep expedition costs low is to pay support staff the absolute minimum whereas the best guides pay a livable wage for their entire team. It is critical to fully understand what you are getting into. But often it is the availability of resources: extra Sherpas, back up supplies (ropes, tents, oxygen bottles, etc), medical facilities, communications and profit and overhead for the operator. But this is difficult to compare.
An example are Sherpas bonuses. A low price service may not include a bonus whereas another may. For example, one company asks the climber to pay $1500 to his Sherpa if they reach the South Col and another $500 if they leave for the summit. This is not shown as part of the base price. But a different company includes these bonuses in their overall package. In both cases it is customary to tip your Sherpa, and western guide, an additional amount.

Comparison Shopping

With all this as background, I used public websites and my own research to compile the 2014 Everest fees from the major Everest guide companies. Also I looked back at their 2013 summit rates and historical numbers where available. This is not a complete list of all guides and I did not look at small one person operations or those who do not run climbs each year for more than one or two clients.

Everest 2014 List Prices and 2013 Summit Rates

COMPANYTypical Team SizeSOUTH w Sherpa Guide*SOUTH w Western Guide*NORTH2013 Summit Success
AlpenGlow2-4N/A$89,000N/A2013: 1 of 2 clients, 1 guide, 4 Sherpas
Adventure Consultants8-12N/A$65,000N/A2013: 7 of 10 clients, 5 guides, 21 Sherpas
257 total summits (clients, Sherpas, guides) since 1990
Alpine Ascents International8-16N/A$65,000N/A2013: 13 of 16 clients, 3 guides, 21 Sherpas.
264 total summits (clients, Sherpas, guides) since 1992. 75% success from 2004
Jagged Globe8-12N/A$58,000N/A2013: 10 of 10 clients, 3 guides, 11 Sherpas
Mountain Trip4-8N/A$65,000N/A2013: 1 of 4 clients, 0 guide, 4 Sherpas
Mountain Madness4-8N/A$64,000N/Ano information available
Himalayan Experience20-30N/A$65,000N/A2013: 12 of 12 clients summited, 2 of 2 guides, 12 Sherpas
364 total summits (clients, Sherpas, guides) since 1994, 0 – 96% success
RMI4-10N/A$59,000N/A2013: 0 of 3 clients, 2 guides, 3 Sherpas
International Mountain Guides12-20$40,000$55,000N/A2013: 16 of 31 clients, 4 guides, 24 Sherpas (2 pushes) est.
381 total summits (clients, Sherpas, guides) since 1991. 66% from 2006
Kobler & Partner8N/A$52,400N/Ano information available
Peak Freaks8-15$39,000$48,500+N/A2013: 4 of 8 clients, 2 guides, 8 Sherpas.
7 Summits Club20N/AN/A$55,7402013: 9 of 13 clients, 1 guide, 9 Sherpas
Altitude Junkies8-12$42,500N/AN/A2013 (n): 3 of 9 clients, 1 leader, 7 Sherpas
Summit Climb5-20N/A$36,450$28,4502013: 12 of 12 South and 11 of 14 clients north
213 total summits both n and s (clients, Sherpas, guides)
Adventure Peaks10-20N/A2013: 4 of 8
Asian Trekking20$36,350 estN/A$29,070 est
2013 (s):14 of 26 clients, 21 Sherpas
2013 (n): 5 of 5 clients, 4 Sherpas
310 total summits (clients, Sherpas) since 2003.
Tim Mosedale4-6$45,000N/A
2013 4 of 6 clients, 1 Guide, 8 Sherpas
N/A = not offered, * full logistics support, gear, food, Personal Sherpa, oxygen, mask and regulator
You can see my thoughts on Everest guides on my main site at Selecting a Guide.


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Safety

In my mind one of the largest decisions to make in selecting a guide service is your personal safety. The vast majority of Everest rescues and emergencies are never reported to the public – and there are many; almost daily throughout the season. Climbers get altitude sickness, GI issues and debilitating fatigue; your life becomes dependent on those around you.
If you are climbing with a small or a thinly staffed team, there is the possibility of not having adequate resources nearby to help you. It is a serious and sometime fatal mistake to believe that Everest is so crowded that someone will always be around to give aid if needed. Remember that each person is struggling to survive on their own, including the Sherpas, and may not have the strength to help regardless of their desire.
The bottom line is that teams who charge more or field a large team will generally have more resources available to support their clients.
As you can see selecting a guide service can be as daunting as climbing Everest itself! But in the end if you get references from other climbers of similar age and experience, the decision will be clear for you. Never be afraid to ask questions. The best operators welcome your questions. Trust me, they have heard it all. Finally, no legitimate operator wants to bring someone on who is a liability so they are interviewing you as much as you are them.

Funding

Getting the money is almost always harder than climbing Everest. Climbers become very creative when finding money. Some take out loans, refinance their home mortgage, others have the infamous “rich uncle”. Then there are those who set up a website to sell t-shirts or ask for “donations” from strangers. Believe it or not, this actually works to raise some money but rarely enough to cover all the expenses.
But the most common way to fund an Everest climb is to make it a priority in your budget by setting money aside each month for as long as it takes. This is how I funded 26 of my big climbs since starting at age 38.
The question of obtaining a sponsor often comes up. It is extremely difficult to get on a sponsored team for example by one of the large outdoor gear companies. There are ways to obtain a sponsor but it takes years of work, a solid plan, proven experience and often comes down to who you know and a lot of luck.
Climbing for a charity or a cause is popular but be careful not to use your cause as a way to fund a climb. This is a poor practice in my opinion.
You can read more about my own experiences with The 7 Summits Climb for Alzheimer’s: Memories are Everything and thoughts for sponsorship at this link.
Climb On!
Alan
Memories are Everything
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